1 00:00:02,269 --> 00:00:03,237 The following program 2 00:00:03,437 --> 00:00:04,438 documents real law enforcement investigations 3 00:00:04,638 --> 00:00:06,273 of child sexual predators. 4 00:00:06,473 --> 00:00:07,740 This deeply disturbing content 5 00:00:07,741 --> 00:00:09,476 may be triggering for some viewers. 6 00:00:09,676 --> 00:00:10,911 Please watch with care. 7 00:00:12,679 --> 00:00:15,581 Next, the team hunts a predator in Houston. 8 00:00:15,582 --> 00:00:18,184 The twist is, he's one of their own. 9 00:00:18,185 --> 00:00:19,953 He's a pervert with a badge. 10 00:00:20,153 --> 00:00:22,789 Concern would be an understatement. 11 00:00:26,026 --> 00:00:28,261 Then Detective Tony Godwin 12 00:00:28,262 --> 00:00:29,896 races to stop a predator 13 00:00:29,897 --> 00:00:31,865 who secretly records his victims. 14 00:00:32,065 --> 00:00:34,034 I'm like, "This guy is sick." 15 00:00:34,468 --> 00:00:37,838 Never in a million years did I imagine this would happen. 16 00:00:41,675 --> 00:00:44,077 And, later, Tony joins forces to stop a predator 17 00:00:44,278 --> 00:00:46,145 who just can't keep it in his pants. 18 00:00:46,146 --> 00:00:48,147 There he is, in all his glory, 19 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:49,550 pants and underwear down around his ankle. 20 00:00:49,750 --> 00:00:52,152 It's a very, very memorable arrest. 21 00:00:55,989 --> 00:00:57,357 Get on the ground! 22 00:00:57,624 --> 00:00:59,458 A team of police professionals 23 00:00:59,459 --> 00:01:01,294 in North Dallas has one goal. 24 00:01:01,295 --> 00:01:02,095 Get out the car! 25 00:01:02,262 --> 00:01:04,431 Take down online predators 26 00:01:04,631 --> 00:01:07,434 before they harm a real child. 27 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:09,836 Child predators are everywhere. 28 00:01:10,304 --> 00:01:12,839 Online predators pose the biggest danger 29 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,908 to America's children today. 30 00:01:15,108 --> 00:01:17,878 Kids are being targeted at an alarming rate. 31 00:01:18,779 --> 00:01:20,480 This team is opening its case files 32 00:01:20,614 --> 00:01:24,151 for the first time to show you how it tracks them down. 33 00:01:25,786 --> 00:01:26,954 All right, he's coming this way. 34 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,391 And brings them to justice by any means necessary. 35 00:01:32,059 --> 00:01:33,594 Put your hands on the car. 36 00:01:34,661 --> 00:01:38,265 This is Detective Tony Godwin and his team is 37 00:01:38,865 --> 00:01:40,667 the Predator Hunters. 38 00:01:45,472 --> 00:01:46,907 It's 2017. 39 00:01:47,074 --> 00:01:50,277 Detectives Tony Godwin and Brandon Poor are facing 40 00:01:50,477 --> 00:01:52,144 their toughest takedown yet. 41 00:01:52,145 --> 00:01:53,880 Both terrifying and shocking. 42 00:01:55,148 --> 00:01:58,417 But what I find out next is just mind blowing. 43 00:01:58,418 --> 00:02:00,120 This guy is a cop. 44 00:02:03,457 --> 00:02:04,824 You know, these cases come along 45 00:02:04,825 --> 00:02:05,993 that you're never going to forget. 46 00:02:06,093 --> 00:02:08,895 This guy here, Donald Dehnert, this is one of them. 47 00:02:09,062 --> 00:02:13,300 This one hits so close to home because this guy was a cop. 48 00:02:14,067 --> 00:02:15,901 At the end of the day, we were able to take 49 00:02:15,902 --> 00:02:18,105 his knowledge of law enforcement and tactics 50 00:02:18,271 --> 00:02:20,474 and use it against him to get him into custody 51 00:02:20,674 --> 00:02:22,275 without him even knowing about it. 52 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:31,218 - Hey. - Hey. 53 00:02:32,386 --> 00:02:33,420 This case revolves around 54 00:02:33,587 --> 00:02:34,988 my friend and colleague, Brandon Poor. 55 00:02:35,088 --> 00:02:37,024 He's a detective on the ICAC Task Force. 56 00:02:37,224 --> 00:02:39,825 I have known Brandon for a very long time, 57 00:02:39,826 --> 00:02:41,228 over 10 years. 58 00:02:42,062 --> 00:02:44,431 We collaborate on cases quite a bit. 59 00:02:44,631 --> 00:02:46,833 A lot of times I'm assisting him 60 00:02:46,933 --> 00:02:48,901 on his search warrants and his cases, 61 00:02:48,902 --> 00:02:50,504 and he's doing the same for mine. 62 00:02:53,073 --> 00:02:54,140 Brandon is online 63 00:02:54,141 --> 00:02:56,476 doing an undercover proactive investigation 64 00:02:56,676 --> 00:02:59,713 into the Internet relay chat, what we call IRC. 65 00:03:01,148 --> 00:03:05,352 IRC is one of the oldest chat platforms that exists. 66 00:03:05,452 --> 00:03:07,788 Looks very old school. 67 00:03:07,888 --> 00:03:09,589 It consists of a bunch of different channels 68 00:03:09,790 --> 00:03:12,059 and forums that's unmonitored. 69 00:03:13,460 --> 00:03:16,462 The culture of IRC is horrific. 70 00:03:16,463 --> 00:03:18,898 It's not for the faint of heart, I promise you. 71 00:03:18,899 --> 00:03:21,635 There are channels like dad and daughter sex, 72 00:03:21,835 --> 00:03:24,237 baby and toddler love, and things that are horrible. 73 00:03:25,272 --> 00:03:27,106 You will find predators 74 00:03:27,107 --> 00:03:30,544 who are sharing back and forth material and communications 75 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:31,944 and talking about things 76 00:03:31,945 --> 00:03:34,581 that would literally make your stomach turn. 77 00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:38,418 So, in this case, I created an undercover profile 78 00:03:38,585 --> 00:03:41,221 of a 31-year-old mom named Laura. 79 00:03:41,421 --> 00:03:47,427 I portray myself as a mom of two daughters, ages 5 and 11. 80 00:03:48,528 --> 00:03:49,496 The idea is that 81 00:03:49,663 --> 00:03:50,664 Brandon's going to use this profile, 82 00:03:50,864 --> 00:03:52,665 who's got two daughters available, 83 00:03:52,666 --> 00:03:54,301 and offer them up for sex. 84 00:03:56,069 --> 00:03:59,639 The sad reality is it's based on real things 85 00:03:59,740 --> 00:04:01,074 that we know have happened. 86 00:04:01,274 --> 00:04:02,476 Real adults who have 87 00:04:02,676 --> 00:04:05,479 had their own children or access to children, 88 00:04:05,579 --> 00:04:07,714 offered them up for sexual purposes. 89 00:04:09,316 --> 00:04:12,552 I'm hit with dozens of messages right away. 90 00:04:13,587 --> 00:04:15,989 But one user sticks out from the others 91 00:04:16,089 --> 00:04:19,425 because its title, LovesYng, 92 00:04:19,426 --> 00:04:21,460 gives me some sort of indication 93 00:04:21,461 --> 00:04:24,030 as to what this user might be looking for. 94 00:04:26,433 --> 00:04:28,835 He's asking me how many daughters I have. 95 00:04:30,270 --> 00:04:33,073 And he says, "I bet they're both so cute and sexy. 96 00:04:33,273 --> 00:04:35,075 I love mothers and their young daughters." 97 00:04:36,977 --> 00:04:41,147 So out of the realm of anything a normal person 98 00:04:41,148 --> 00:04:42,315 would even think about. 99 00:04:42,415 --> 00:04:44,384 Feels a little more creepy to me. 100 00:04:44,584 --> 00:04:47,354 I have kids and it hits a little closer to home. 101 00:04:47,687 --> 00:04:49,790 So I'm playing naive. 102 00:04:51,057 --> 00:04:54,661 I'm basically telling him I haven't really talked 103 00:04:54,861 --> 00:04:56,262 about anything like this. 104 00:04:56,263 --> 00:04:57,497 And he's saying it would be something 105 00:04:57,664 --> 00:04:58,899 he would want to actually do. 106 00:04:59,699 --> 00:05:02,701 Over the next few weeks, the messages start becoming 107 00:05:02,702 --> 00:05:04,638 more graphic and more explicit. 108 00:05:05,272 --> 00:05:06,840 Both terrifying and shocking. 109 00:05:08,675 --> 00:05:11,278 Concern would be an understatement. 110 00:05:11,478 --> 00:05:14,114 My biggest fear that he's going to go meet a real kid 111 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:17,551 or, in this case, the parent that has access to kids. 112 00:05:21,288 --> 00:05:23,190 Brandon shows me some of the communications 113 00:05:23,290 --> 00:05:25,658 between he and this user, LovesYng. 114 00:05:25,659 --> 00:05:27,828 I'm telling you, it's so disgusting. 115 00:05:29,529 --> 00:05:32,499 The deviant, horrible things he wants to do to a child. 116 00:05:32,666 --> 00:05:35,901 This guy is a problem, so we've got to do everything we can 117 00:05:35,902 --> 00:05:38,504 to figure out who he is, find him, 118 00:05:38,505 --> 00:05:40,073 and put his ass in jail. 119 00:05:42,475 --> 00:05:44,477 Tony subpoenas the Internet provider 120 00:05:44,678 --> 00:05:47,313 for information about LovesYng's identity. 121 00:05:47,314 --> 00:05:48,981 I eventually get the information back 122 00:05:48,982 --> 00:05:51,017 and they give me an address in the Houston area. 123 00:05:51,184 --> 00:05:53,520 And it comes back to a guy named Donald Dehnert. 124 00:05:53,787 --> 00:05:54,788 I do a little bit of digging 125 00:05:54,988 --> 00:05:56,856 and I find a Facebook profile for this guy. 126 00:05:57,023 --> 00:05:58,425 And on the surface, 127 00:05:58,625 --> 00:06:01,695 he just looks like some normal married guy, family dude. 128 00:06:01,862 --> 00:06:03,230 He's got a pet. 129 00:06:03,930 --> 00:06:06,900 But what I find out next is just mind-blowing. 130 00:06:09,035 --> 00:06:10,503 This guy is a cop. 131 00:06:15,675 --> 00:06:18,745 He has lived a life of sworn to protect the community, 132 00:06:18,912 --> 00:06:21,915 yet he leads this double life where he's soliciting someone 133 00:06:22,015 --> 00:06:23,516 to have sex with children. 134 00:06:23,617 --> 00:06:26,553 It really makes me sick to my stomach to say these things. 135 00:06:26,653 --> 00:06:29,789 At the end of the day, he's a pervert with a badge. 136 00:06:32,259 --> 00:06:34,660 The next thing that Brandon needs to do is really establish, 137 00:06:34,661 --> 00:06:36,896 is this guy, Dehnert, going to follow through 138 00:06:37,063 --> 00:06:41,066 in what he's been saying online and actually show up to engage 139 00:06:41,067 --> 00:06:42,636 in a sex act with a child? 140 00:06:44,337 --> 00:06:47,607 We're talking over the holiday period. 141 00:06:47,707 --> 00:06:49,876 He says he wishes he could have my girls 142 00:06:49,976 --> 00:06:52,912 under the Christmas tree and unwrap them slowly. 143 00:06:55,615 --> 00:06:57,182 I mean, what do you say to that? 144 00:06:57,183 --> 00:06:59,219 He's most certainly having 145 00:06:59,386 --> 00:07:01,421 some sort of Christmas with his family, 146 00:07:02,222 --> 00:07:03,189 but he's stepping away 147 00:07:03,290 --> 00:07:05,392 to go to the computer and tell me these things. 148 00:07:07,027 --> 00:07:08,060 Jekyll and Hyde. 149 00:07:08,061 --> 00:07:10,196 That's what it is. It's Jekyll and Hyde. 150 00:07:11,932 --> 00:07:13,500 After several months of Brandon 151 00:07:13,667 --> 00:07:15,502 working this undercover Laura profile 152 00:07:15,669 --> 00:07:17,269 and offering up these two girls, 153 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:18,471 Dehnert finally makes 154 00:07:18,672 --> 00:07:20,874 a suggestion for a meet in real life, 155 00:07:21,141 --> 00:07:21,908 and he's going to engage 156 00:07:22,108 --> 00:07:23,677 in a sexual encounter with two kids. 157 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,748 He's making it very clear 158 00:07:28,948 --> 00:07:31,151 he wants an entire weekend with these kids. 159 00:07:34,421 --> 00:07:36,423 Sexually abusing these children. 160 00:07:38,825 --> 00:07:41,428 Now that he's given me a concrete day, 161 00:07:41,628 --> 00:07:43,662 I think it's time to make an op plan. 162 00:07:43,663 --> 00:07:45,632 I'm going to go meet with Tony to do that now. 163 00:07:46,666 --> 00:07:49,269 You know, this is an absolute worst case scenario 164 00:07:49,469 --> 00:07:50,270 for us. 165 00:07:50,470 --> 00:07:52,072 There's so many things that could go wrong. 166 00:07:52,272 --> 00:07:56,276 One, this guy knows every tactic used by law enforcement. 167 00:07:56,476 --> 00:07:58,545 We have to confront him at his house. 168 00:07:59,512 --> 00:08:00,714 We've gotta come up with a plan 169 00:08:00,914 --> 00:08:03,316 that's not gonna alert him that he's being arrested. 170 00:08:03,416 --> 00:08:06,219 He's got guns, or at least, a gun. 171 00:08:06,386 --> 00:08:09,222 He could barricade. We could get into a shootout. 172 00:08:09,422 --> 00:08:10,990 There's so many variables, 173 00:08:11,091 --> 00:08:13,659 and this is so touchy. It's like a powder keg 174 00:08:13,660 --> 00:08:15,061 about to explode. 175 00:08:15,261 --> 00:08:17,430 Okay, I got a plan. 176 00:08:18,665 --> 00:08:21,868 We use what he knows about what we do 177 00:08:22,836 --> 00:08:24,870 to help us and benefit us, right? 178 00:08:24,871 --> 00:08:26,706 So his house is here. 179 00:08:26,873 --> 00:08:28,507 He's got a street here. 180 00:08:28,508 --> 00:08:31,111 And he's got a neighbor right across the street there. 181 00:08:31,311 --> 00:08:34,381 What if we park the SWAT van right here? 182 00:08:35,215 --> 00:08:36,582 Put an ambulance here 183 00:08:36,583 --> 00:08:38,785 and make it look like we're at 184 00:08:38,985 --> 00:08:41,653 some police operation across the street. 185 00:08:41,654 --> 00:08:44,424 And then before he has a time to think about it, 186 00:08:44,624 --> 00:08:45,592 they surround him. 187 00:08:45,792 --> 00:08:48,028 We have him put his hands on his head and disarm him. 188 00:08:48,228 --> 00:08:49,661 So putting the SWAT truck 189 00:08:49,662 --> 00:08:51,898 and an ambulance directly in front of his house. 190 00:08:52,065 --> 00:08:54,200 - It's crazy. - It's genius, though. 191 00:08:54,401 --> 00:08:56,236 We need this guy to be so dismissive. 192 00:08:56,336 --> 00:08:59,706 Like, "Who knew I was across the street from a crime 193 00:08:59,873 --> 00:09:03,076 or a criminal?" when, in fact, it's for him. 194 00:09:08,915 --> 00:09:11,951 We're set up right in front of Dehnert's address, 195 00:09:12,052 --> 00:09:14,120 waiting for him to come out. 196 00:09:14,621 --> 00:09:16,222 It's like 6 o'clock in the morning. 197 00:09:16,423 --> 00:09:18,858 They know full well this is the normal time 198 00:09:19,025 --> 00:09:20,794 that Dehnert leaves to go to work. 199 00:09:21,661 --> 00:09:23,863 The whole anticipation is unlike anything else 200 00:09:24,064 --> 00:09:27,033 because everybody's anxious, everybody's amped up. 201 00:09:27,233 --> 00:09:29,035 It's really nerve-wracking. 202 00:09:35,508 --> 00:09:37,477 And then he comes out of his house, 203 00:09:37,677 --> 00:09:41,548 cup of coffee in hand, oblivious to what's going on. 204 00:09:41,748 --> 00:09:43,516 His focus is on the SWAT guys, 205 00:09:43,616 --> 00:09:46,185 and he doesn't really have a moment 206 00:09:46,186 --> 00:09:48,421 to think about what might be happening. 207 00:09:49,656 --> 00:09:50,857 They all turn. 208 00:09:51,024 --> 00:09:53,193 They focus all their weapons on him. 209 00:09:59,866 --> 00:10:01,234 And they get him into custody. 210 00:10:06,272 --> 00:10:08,675 All I had at this point was a search warrant. 211 00:10:08,775 --> 00:10:11,277 That's part of the reason why we don't handcuff him, 212 00:10:11,478 --> 00:10:12,945 so that we can build a rapport 213 00:10:12,946 --> 00:10:15,515 to hopefully get him to agree to an interview. 214 00:10:22,088 --> 00:10:24,057 I'm a little curious as to whether 215 00:10:24,224 --> 00:10:25,225 he's gonna talk to us. 216 00:10:25,425 --> 00:10:27,427 I mean, he knows what an interview is like 217 00:10:27,627 --> 00:10:30,663 for a police officer and investigator in this case. 218 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:33,233 Before Brandon conducts his interview, 219 00:10:33,433 --> 00:10:35,835 the team searches Dehnert's home. 220 00:10:44,944 --> 00:10:46,311 What they're looking for, obviously, 221 00:10:46,312 --> 00:10:48,915 is anything capable of connecting to the Internet. 222 00:10:52,952 --> 00:10:55,821 They seize 40 electronic devices in total. 223 00:10:55,822 --> 00:10:59,192 SD cards, memory sticks, cameras, laptops, 224 00:10:59,292 --> 00:11:00,593 everything you can imagine, 225 00:11:00,793 --> 00:11:02,461 all of which has to be submitted 226 00:11:02,462 --> 00:11:03,897 and examined forensically. 227 00:11:09,068 --> 00:11:09,836 The fact that 228 00:11:10,036 --> 00:11:11,237 he's doing this interview in the car, 229 00:11:11,437 --> 00:11:13,672 this is a really common tactic that we use. 230 00:11:13,673 --> 00:11:15,140 Get them while they're really thinking, 231 00:11:15,141 --> 00:11:16,508 "What is going on?" 232 00:11:16,509 --> 00:11:18,478 And see if we can capitalize on it. 233 00:11:24,384 --> 00:11:25,617 I'm baffled. 234 00:11:25,618 --> 00:11:28,421 The fact that this guy who's been in law enforcement 235 00:11:28,621 --> 00:11:31,423 talking to a detective about this type of crime 236 00:11:31,424 --> 00:11:33,359 and doesn't ask for a lawyer, 237 00:11:33,626 --> 00:11:34,794 blows my mind. 238 00:11:38,932 --> 00:11:42,001 Detective Brandon Poor confronts one of his own, 239 00:11:42,168 --> 00:11:44,604 Deputy Sheriff Donald Dehnert. 240 00:11:51,344 --> 00:11:55,048 My belief is Dehnert knows why we're there, 241 00:11:55,181 --> 00:11:57,050 but he doesn't know how much we know. 242 00:12:19,706 --> 00:12:21,841 Dehnert opens up to us quite a bit. 243 00:12:22,008 --> 00:12:25,812 He was a lot more forthright than I expected him to be. 244 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:49,636 He's saying right there, 245 00:12:49,802 --> 00:12:53,072 he thinks it was one of us or maybe even me. 246 00:12:53,406 --> 00:12:55,308 And I'm not going to let him know it was. 247 00:13:31,444 --> 00:13:33,146 I think that he's thinking, 248 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:36,849 if this weren't a real person with real kids, 249 00:13:37,083 --> 00:13:39,485 then it's not even that big of a deal. 250 00:13:41,254 --> 00:13:42,522 You know, some of the horrible things 251 00:13:42,655 --> 00:13:44,724 that he said and that he planned to do. 252 00:13:44,824 --> 00:13:46,959 If you read through the communications, 253 00:13:47,093 --> 00:13:50,797 there's no indication that this was anything other 254 00:13:50,930 --> 00:13:52,899 than something he wanted to act out. 255 00:14:30,069 --> 00:14:31,504 If there was any doubt 256 00:14:31,637 --> 00:14:34,841 about how real this is in his life, 257 00:14:35,041 --> 00:14:37,910 he's now admitted to viewing child sex abuse material 258 00:14:38,044 --> 00:14:39,412 on his laptop 259 00:14:39,512 --> 00:14:42,148 and moving it to a thumb drive. 260 00:14:42,281 --> 00:14:44,784 The fact that we're now going to find CSAM 261 00:14:44,917 --> 00:14:47,787 in the home on more than one device 262 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,655 means that it's additional charges 263 00:14:49,789 --> 00:14:53,426 and additional crimes that we have to investigate as well. 264 00:15:22,655 --> 00:15:24,724 I don't view Dehnert any differently 265 00:15:24,824 --> 00:15:26,726 than any of my other child predators. 266 00:15:26,826 --> 00:15:30,430 The fact that Dehnert was a police officer just meant 267 00:15:30,596 --> 00:15:32,765 that he was a predator that flew under the radar 268 00:15:32,899 --> 00:15:34,167 until we could catch him. 269 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:35,968 Brandon did a great job. 270 00:15:36,068 --> 00:15:38,104 And he's able to get information from Dehnert 271 00:15:38,237 --> 00:15:40,173 that he had a USB device 272 00:15:40,273 --> 00:15:42,208 that had child sex abuse material on it. 273 00:15:42,341 --> 00:15:44,410 A recovery of that device 274 00:15:44,510 --> 00:15:46,279 and a further examination of that device 275 00:15:46,446 --> 00:15:51,017 revealed a thousand-plus images of child sex abuse material. 276 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,836 What we know about people who prey on kids 277 00:16:10,002 --> 00:16:13,773 is they're the teachers and the pastors and the doctors 278 00:16:13,906 --> 00:16:15,473 and the farmers and the plumbers 279 00:16:15,474 --> 00:16:17,109 and everyone else around you 280 00:16:17,243 --> 00:16:20,213 that looks just like anyone else to you. 281 00:16:20,346 --> 00:16:22,314 It's 2009. 282 00:16:22,315 --> 00:16:24,350 Detectives join forces to stop 283 00:16:24,517 --> 00:16:27,186 a predator who's exposing himself to a child. 284 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,223 He's transmitting webcam. He's panning up. 285 00:16:30,356 --> 00:16:31,557 Shows his face. 286 00:16:32,391 --> 00:16:33,793 You can't make this stuff up, right? 287 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,629 These guys are so pathetic. 288 00:16:42,368 --> 00:16:43,569 Every once in a while, 289 00:16:43,703 --> 00:16:45,204 we find an offender that's so twisted, 290 00:16:45,338 --> 00:16:47,707 it shocks even a seasoned veteran like me. 291 00:16:48,207 --> 00:16:49,876 This guy, Michael Vanmeter, 292 00:16:50,042 --> 00:16:52,111 sent a boatload of child sex abuse material 293 00:16:52,245 --> 00:16:54,514 to what he thought was a 13-year-old girl. 294 00:16:54,647 --> 00:16:55,681 We had to coordinate 295 00:16:55,882 --> 00:16:59,218 to get this guy caught with his pants down, literally. 296 00:17:08,194 --> 00:17:10,229 I got a phone call from Lieutenant Gary Marquis. 297 00:17:10,396 --> 00:17:13,366 He was a friend and colleague on the ICAC task force 298 00:17:13,466 --> 00:17:15,568 in a different county in North Texas. 299 00:17:15,701 --> 00:17:17,904 He was kind of in a bit of a panic because he's like, 300 00:17:18,304 --> 00:17:20,306 "Hey, man, I'm online in an undercover capacity 301 00:17:20,439 --> 00:17:23,209 "talking to this suspect that lives in your city, 302 00:17:23,342 --> 00:17:24,810 and I need you to check it out." 303 00:17:28,648 --> 00:17:32,084 In 2009, Yahoo was the big kid on the block. 304 00:17:32,752 --> 00:17:34,687 They had numerous chatrooms. 305 00:17:34,820 --> 00:17:39,125 There could be tens of thousands of people in these chat rooms. 306 00:17:40,026 --> 00:17:43,062 I was actually going into these chat rooms, 307 00:17:43,195 --> 00:17:45,564 looking for individuals that search 308 00:17:45,665 --> 00:17:48,033 for underage children to have sex with. 309 00:17:48,034 --> 00:17:51,037 Gary tells me he created this profile, Texasgrl13. 310 00:17:51,203 --> 00:17:53,205 He was a 13-year-old female. 311 00:17:53,339 --> 00:17:55,508 And he tells me that he got contacted right away 312 00:17:55,641 --> 00:17:57,877 by a user named MV-57. 313 00:17:59,545 --> 00:18:04,483 MV-57 wanted to know my age, sex, and location. 314 00:18:04,584 --> 00:18:08,421 And I told him I was 13, female, and I lived in Texas. 315 00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:13,626 He didn't even blink at the age of 13. 316 00:18:19,732 --> 00:18:21,801 My undercover name is Alexis. 317 00:18:23,336 --> 00:18:24,971 Nice to meet you, Mike. 318 00:18:25,604 --> 00:18:27,873 The next communication is, 319 00:18:28,207 --> 00:18:30,109 "You ever been with an older man?" 320 00:18:33,045 --> 00:18:34,814 I replied, "I'm still a virgin." 321 00:18:36,482 --> 00:18:39,218 His end goal is for Alexis to start trusting him. 322 00:18:40,453 --> 00:18:43,155 Like really creepy predator behavior, right? 323 00:18:43,556 --> 00:18:44,924 But it gets worse. 324 00:18:45,658 --> 00:18:48,928 Within minutes, this same user, MV-57, 325 00:18:49,028 --> 00:18:51,597 began to send me images of child sexual abuse material, 326 00:18:51,731 --> 00:18:54,367 or CSAM as we refer to it. 327 00:18:55,301 --> 00:18:56,669 You know, typically in these investigations, 328 00:18:56,802 --> 00:18:58,471 I get a picture of their junk 329 00:18:58,604 --> 00:19:00,506 that they want to show off to a young girl. 330 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,309 But this is like taking a 2x4 to the head. 331 00:19:03,442 --> 00:19:05,411 This is some hardcore child pornography. 332 00:19:06,345 --> 00:19:08,848 That's a felony to share or send 333 00:19:08,981 --> 00:19:11,083 child sexual abuse material to another person. 334 00:19:11,717 --> 00:19:14,954 It pisses me off, the fact that this guy is willing to go 335 00:19:15,121 --> 00:19:17,423 and share horrible material 336 00:19:17,556 --> 00:19:19,225 with what he thinks is a real kid. 337 00:19:19,358 --> 00:19:22,662 The rapid nature in which this happened is really concerning, 338 00:19:22,795 --> 00:19:25,164 was really concerning for Gary. We don't know who he is. 339 00:19:25,264 --> 00:19:26,365 And at the end of the day, 340 00:19:26,465 --> 00:19:28,601 he could be doing something to a real kid. 341 00:19:28,801 --> 00:19:29,969 I need to identify him quickly. 342 00:19:37,543 --> 00:19:39,712 Lieutenant Marquis is communicating with 343 00:19:39,845 --> 00:19:43,883 a determined online predator called MV-57. 344 00:19:44,016 --> 00:19:48,087 A few weeks into the chat, he receives a friend request. 345 00:19:48,454 --> 00:19:50,923 Oh, wow. That took his display name off 346 00:19:51,057 --> 00:19:53,726 and his first and last name is visible. 347 00:19:54,026 --> 00:19:57,229 That's his freaking name, Michael Vanmeter. 348 00:19:59,498 --> 00:20:01,400 It's a surreal moment because you're thinking, 349 00:20:01,534 --> 00:20:03,002 "How dumb can you be?" 350 00:20:03,169 --> 00:20:04,837 Like, you are out here doing this crime. 351 00:20:05,004 --> 00:20:05,838 You're doing things 352 00:20:06,005 --> 00:20:08,607 and soliciting a child for sexual purposes, 353 00:20:08,741 --> 00:20:09,975 yet you're dumb enough to put 354 00:20:10,076 --> 00:20:12,678 your real name on your profile information? 355 00:20:15,581 --> 00:20:17,049 And then Michael Vanmeter 356 00:20:17,183 --> 00:20:20,686 began transmitting live webcam feed. 357 00:20:21,987 --> 00:20:26,125 This feed began at his genitals and then moved up to his face. 358 00:20:28,394 --> 00:20:31,163 Then I took a screenshot of his face. 359 00:20:33,899 --> 00:20:35,267 Just goes to show you these guys 360 00:20:35,401 --> 00:20:37,470 are not the brightest bulbs in the box. 361 00:20:39,138 --> 00:20:40,372 We have a picture of him. 362 00:20:40,473 --> 00:20:41,674 We have his name. 363 00:20:41,807 --> 00:20:44,210 Now we can determine who he is and where he's at. 364 00:20:45,144 --> 00:20:47,513 A search on the police database reveals 365 00:20:47,646 --> 00:20:51,283 that Vanmeter lives within Tony's jurisdiction. 366 00:20:53,219 --> 00:20:54,887 When Lieutenant Marquis calls me 367 00:20:54,987 --> 00:20:56,388 to tell me about this predator, 368 00:20:56,522 --> 00:20:58,924 Michael Vanmeter, who lives in my city, 369 00:20:59,058 --> 00:21:01,660 that's a real concern for me. Because this guy's talking about 370 00:21:01,794 --> 00:21:04,163 the things he's talking about and sharing that material, 371 00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:06,766 I move right away to start working on that. 372 00:21:10,503 --> 00:21:13,005 As Gary and I discuss a way to get Vanmeter out 373 00:21:13,139 --> 00:21:14,874 into the open to get him arrested, 374 00:21:15,007 --> 00:21:17,343 he throws a curveball that really floors us, 375 00:21:17,476 --> 00:21:18,511 and it kind of changes 376 00:21:18,644 --> 00:21:20,513 the course of everything that we do. 377 00:21:22,348 --> 00:21:24,083 I get a message, and the message says, 378 00:21:24,216 --> 00:21:25,885 "It's my birthday on Monday. 379 00:21:26,418 --> 00:21:28,888 I hope to obtain a great birthday present." 380 00:21:29,722 --> 00:21:31,924 And I respond, "What would it be?" 381 00:21:33,225 --> 00:21:34,727 Vanmeter replies, 382 00:21:34,860 --> 00:21:39,798 "Seeing my 12 and 14-year-old neighbor kids naked." 383 00:21:42,168 --> 00:21:44,570 When he says, hey, it's my birthday weekend 384 00:21:44,670 --> 00:21:47,606 and I might have access or availability to a real kid 385 00:21:47,740 --> 00:21:49,608 and see some kids naked 386 00:21:49,742 --> 00:21:51,810 as like a birthday present kind of a thing. 387 00:21:51,944 --> 00:21:54,079 I'm like, "I'm going to put eyes on this guy. 388 00:21:54,246 --> 00:21:55,614 "I'm going to put eyes on his house 389 00:21:55,748 --> 00:21:57,650 "and I'm going to get a team of people together 390 00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:59,518 to make sure that doesn't happen." 391 00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:01,687 Tony and Lieutenant Marquis 392 00:22:01,787 --> 00:22:04,824 devise a plan to snare Michael Vanmeter. 393 00:22:04,957 --> 00:22:07,626 Gary, if he's on the computer with Vanmeter 394 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,461 while we're setting up to do 395 00:22:09,595 --> 00:22:11,030 the arrest warrant and search warrant, 396 00:22:11,197 --> 00:22:14,967 the chances of him being able to access a kid are minimized. 397 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:18,637 So this is kind of a dual plan that we have in place. 398 00:22:18,804 --> 00:22:20,172 It's not going to be simple, 399 00:22:20,306 --> 00:22:21,707 but we're going to make it happen. 400 00:22:26,378 --> 00:22:29,348 August 7th, 2009, this is Detective Godwin. 401 00:22:29,481 --> 00:22:33,385 It is 5:33, 5:33 pm. 402 00:22:33,519 --> 00:22:35,387 I'm sitting outside the target house 403 00:22:35,521 --> 00:22:38,924 for this gentleman right here, Michael Vanmeter. 404 00:22:39,425 --> 00:22:41,560 As I'm sitting here, I'm in contact also 405 00:22:41,694 --> 00:22:42,828 with Gary Marquis. 406 00:22:42,962 --> 00:22:44,997 The reality is I gotta keep eyes on this place 407 00:22:45,130 --> 00:22:47,233 while all the other moving parts are happening. 408 00:22:47,666 --> 00:22:49,168 As soon as that warrant is signed, 409 00:22:49,301 --> 00:22:50,769 we're gonna hit the house. 410 00:22:51,804 --> 00:22:54,306 I get the team to do a perimeter around the house. 411 00:22:55,140 --> 00:22:57,209 And we have some radio chatter going back and forth 412 00:22:57,343 --> 00:22:59,245 and I have a teammate that tells me, "Hey, 413 00:22:59,378 --> 00:23:00,813 "I can see through a window, 414 00:23:00,913 --> 00:23:03,749 and I can see Vanmeter sitting at a computer." 415 00:23:04,717 --> 00:23:07,119 I'm communicating with Vanmeter 416 00:23:07,253 --> 00:23:08,354 in Chat Messenger. 417 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,657 He actually starts transmitting video footage. 418 00:23:12,892 --> 00:23:15,160 So I call Tony and I tell him 419 00:23:15,761 --> 00:23:17,763 he has no idea that y'all are outside. 420 00:23:18,998 --> 00:23:20,666 It's go, go, go. 421 00:23:22,968 --> 00:23:24,270 We're at the front of the residence 422 00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:25,638 and I'm banging on the door. 423 00:23:25,804 --> 00:23:27,973 "Police, police, search warrant, open the door, open the door." 424 00:23:28,073 --> 00:23:30,242 The door gets open, and I'm greeted by 425 00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:31,710 what I believe is the roommate. 426 00:23:31,844 --> 00:23:33,012 I talked to Tony and say, 427 00:23:33,112 --> 00:23:34,346 "You know, this is what he's doing. 428 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,881 He's masturbating on webcam." 429 00:23:36,048 --> 00:23:38,050 I send two guys immediately down the hall. 430 00:23:38,217 --> 00:23:40,819 They beeline straight for Vanmeter's door. 431 00:23:40,953 --> 00:23:42,554 They push right through. 432 00:23:43,422 --> 00:23:44,924 Guess what they see? 433 00:23:45,057 --> 00:23:46,725 There he is in all his glory, 434 00:23:46,859 --> 00:23:48,661 pants and underwear down around his ankle. 435 00:23:48,794 --> 00:23:51,764 He's in full bloom, just masturbating away. 436 00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:55,134 You can't make this stuff up, right? 437 00:23:55,234 --> 00:23:57,636 These guys are so pathetic. 438 00:23:57,803 --> 00:23:59,505 They're such deviants. 439 00:24:00,072 --> 00:24:01,040 I'm walking into the room 440 00:24:01,206 --> 00:24:03,075 and I'm on the phone with Gary Marquis. 441 00:24:03,208 --> 00:24:06,011 And so I take my badge off and I just kind of zoom it up 442 00:24:06,111 --> 00:24:08,681 into the webcam on the computer. 443 00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:14,486 What a nice finish to see this guy finally into custody, 444 00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:17,022 bagged and tagged. He's not hurting a real kid. 445 00:24:22,261 --> 00:24:24,029 Detective Godwin's team searches the home 446 00:24:24,229 --> 00:24:26,097 of child predator Michael Vanmeter, 447 00:24:26,098 --> 00:24:27,633 following his arrest. 448 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,834 There's loads of child sex abuse material 449 00:24:29,835 --> 00:24:32,037 and he's got a map that's laid out. 450 00:24:32,204 --> 00:24:34,640 And on that map, he's got an area 451 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,475 that's designated right where 452 00:24:36,675 --> 00:24:41,145 Gary Marquis's undercover profile is, Alexis. 453 00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:42,681 And that's really indicative 454 00:24:42,848 --> 00:24:44,850 of what this guy's real intent was. 455 00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:47,385 He's now mapping out a drive 456 00:24:47,386 --> 00:24:50,756 to go to this location, which is a couple hours away, 457 00:24:50,923 --> 00:24:52,591 to have a sexual encounter 458 00:24:52,791 --> 00:24:54,560 with what he believed to be a child. 459 00:24:57,563 --> 00:24:58,697 Vanmeter agrees to have 460 00:24:58,831 --> 00:25:00,632 an interview without a lawyer present. 461 00:25:01,266 --> 00:25:03,067 I love the interview process. 462 00:25:03,068 --> 00:25:04,836 I don't care that I haven't eaten, 463 00:25:04,837 --> 00:25:07,239 that I haven't slept, that I've been up for hours. 464 00:25:07,406 --> 00:25:09,041 It doesn't make any difference. 465 00:25:21,820 --> 00:25:23,621 He's got his head in his hand. 466 00:25:23,622 --> 00:25:26,624 Like, he's so broken, in my mind, 467 00:25:26,625 --> 00:25:28,727 I'm thinking, "This is right where I want him to be" 468 00:25:28,827 --> 00:25:31,230 because this is the best case scenario for me 469 00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:33,432 to get this guy to confess to everything. 470 00:26:13,038 --> 00:26:15,240 He says, "No, I was never going to go meet that child." 471 00:26:15,407 --> 00:26:17,176 Dude, give me a break. 472 00:26:17,276 --> 00:26:20,112 We found a map to her location at your place. 473 00:27:06,225 --> 00:27:08,393 This guy is so creepy. 474 00:27:08,594 --> 00:27:11,230 The type of material that he sent and forwarded 475 00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:14,633 to this child is so disturbing, 476 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,235 so unnerving. 477 00:27:16,768 --> 00:27:18,837 It would shock the conscience of the American public 478 00:27:19,037 --> 00:27:21,072 if they actually had to see something like that. 479 00:27:21,073 --> 00:27:24,009 It's the most deplorable, disgusting stuff on the planet. 480 00:27:29,848 --> 00:27:31,950 The takeaway for me on this Vanmeter case 481 00:27:32,150 --> 00:27:34,586 is he shared child sex abuse material, 482 00:27:34,786 --> 00:27:37,389 horrific stuff, in a moment's notice, 483 00:27:37,589 --> 00:27:40,792 like 10 minutes within talking to this 13-year-old girl. 484 00:27:40,959 --> 00:27:42,928 So as a parent, be super vigilant. 485 00:27:43,028 --> 00:27:45,597 You'd rather know full well what's going on 486 00:27:45,731 --> 00:27:48,033 and where they're going than being in the dark 487 00:27:48,233 --> 00:27:50,002 and letting them get exposed to a predator 488 00:27:50,202 --> 00:27:51,570 like Michael Vanmeter. 489 00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:53,504 It's 2012. 490 00:27:53,505 --> 00:27:54,840 Detective Tony Godwin 491 00:27:55,007 --> 00:27:58,477 is in a race against time to stop a predatory lawyer. 492 00:28:02,047 --> 00:28:04,082 He is the creepiest of the creepiest, 493 00:28:04,283 --> 00:28:06,351 the worst of the worst. 494 00:28:07,219 --> 00:28:10,556 Never in a million years did I imagine this would happen. 495 00:28:11,590 --> 00:28:12,591 You know, once in a while, 496 00:28:12,791 --> 00:28:14,526 you get a case that just blows your mind. 497 00:28:14,626 --> 00:28:16,929 That is this case for me, Christian Gieseke. 498 00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:20,232 This started out as like an inappropriate conversation 499 00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:21,465 with a young girl 500 00:28:21,466 --> 00:28:23,668 who was spending the night with his stepdaughter, 501 00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:26,471 and it morphed into something that was unbelievable, 502 00:28:26,672 --> 00:28:29,507 deviant behavior that nobody was really expecting. 503 00:28:29,508 --> 00:28:31,476 This guy, hidden in plain sight. 504 00:28:31,677 --> 00:28:32,678 I'm proud that we were able 505 00:28:32,844 --> 00:28:35,080 to get this guy off the street and behind bars. 506 00:28:45,157 --> 00:28:46,825 On July 7th of 2012, 507 00:28:47,025 --> 00:28:48,627 I got a phone call from a concerned parent. 508 00:28:48,994 --> 00:28:51,230 She told me that her daughter, a 13-year-old, 509 00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:53,365 was spending the night with her best friend, Skylar. 510 00:28:53,465 --> 00:28:56,602 And while she was there, her best friend's stepdad 511 00:28:56,768 --> 00:28:58,136 had made some very inappropriate 512 00:28:58,236 --> 00:29:00,672 conduct and communications with her. 513 00:29:01,106 --> 00:29:03,175 I tell the mom that she needs to bring her daughter, 514 00:29:03,275 --> 00:29:04,643 Natasha, into the police station 515 00:29:04,843 --> 00:29:06,278 so I can have a conversation with her. 516 00:29:07,312 --> 00:29:08,880 Natasha is a fake name 517 00:29:09,047 --> 00:29:11,917 to protect the identity of the real victim. 518 00:29:12,050 --> 00:29:14,353 Natasha tells me around 2:00 in the morning, 519 00:29:14,553 --> 00:29:16,355 Skylar's stepfather, Christian Gieseke, 520 00:29:16,555 --> 00:29:18,924 looked in the room and saw that she was awake 521 00:29:19,024 --> 00:29:21,593 and invited her to just watch TV. 522 00:29:21,793 --> 00:29:23,261 And they started watching Friends. 523 00:29:23,262 --> 00:29:25,897 But then it kind of took a weird turn. 524 00:29:26,031 --> 00:29:30,202 Christian started to ask her very inappropriate questions. 525 00:29:30,636 --> 00:29:32,838 She is freaked out, right? 526 00:29:33,038 --> 00:29:34,640 But that doesn't deter him at all, 527 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,642 because what he does next is shocking. 528 00:29:36,842 --> 00:29:39,077 He tries to show her pornography. 529 00:29:40,045 --> 00:29:42,713 She is completely frozen. 530 00:29:42,714 --> 00:29:44,416 She begins to cry. 531 00:29:44,916 --> 00:29:47,184 Christian then suggests, "Hey, why don't you go take a shower, 532 00:29:47,185 --> 00:29:49,620 calm down. I'm just trying to help you." 533 00:29:49,621 --> 00:29:50,555 She's like, you know what? 534 00:29:50,756 --> 00:29:53,125 I think I'm just going to go back in the room. 535 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,396 This is really creepy predator behavior, right? 536 00:29:57,596 --> 00:30:00,064 Natasha tells me she does not wake Skylar up. 537 00:30:00,065 --> 00:30:02,534 She just kind of lays there, paralyzed in fear. 538 00:30:02,634 --> 00:30:04,403 She's able to get a couple hours of sleep. 539 00:30:04,569 --> 00:30:05,971 This guy is acting out. 540 00:30:06,071 --> 00:30:09,641 He's on a path to escalate to put his hands on a real kid. 541 00:30:09,841 --> 00:30:11,843 And that is a huge issue for me. 542 00:30:13,345 --> 00:30:14,512 The next step for me 543 00:30:14,513 --> 00:30:16,615 is to make sure that his wife and stepdaughter, 544 00:30:16,715 --> 00:30:18,750 Skylar, are in a safe place. 545 00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:20,085 So I have to interview them. 546 00:30:20,385 --> 00:30:22,487 And Skylar reveals some information to me 547 00:30:22,587 --> 00:30:25,157 that is absolutely mind-blowing and shocking. 548 00:30:25,324 --> 00:30:27,592 It scares me to the point where we are going 549 00:30:27,793 --> 00:30:29,361 to move on this guy immediately. 550 00:30:33,398 --> 00:30:34,399 Detective Tony Godwin 551 00:30:34,533 --> 00:30:35,567 interviews the mom and daughter 552 00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:38,470 who share a home with suspected child predator 553 00:30:38,603 --> 00:30:39,638 Christian Gieseke. 554 00:30:39,738 --> 00:30:41,640 Thankfully, I'm able to get Skylar and her mom 555 00:30:41,740 --> 00:30:43,442 to the PD about 1 o'clock, 556 00:30:43,608 --> 00:30:44,843 get them away from this guy 557 00:30:45,010 --> 00:30:48,213 who I now am believing 100% is a predator. 558 00:30:57,756 --> 00:30:58,890 When Skylar comes in, 559 00:30:59,024 --> 00:31:00,859 she's nervous and she's a little scared. 560 00:31:01,026 --> 00:31:02,427 And you can just see that 561 00:31:02,561 --> 00:31:04,730 the bottom of their world has dropped out. 562 00:31:06,298 --> 00:31:08,867 Christian, he was just the dad at my house. 563 00:31:08,967 --> 00:31:11,803 And he was very trustworthy, 564 00:31:12,170 --> 00:31:13,638 taught us how to protect ourselves 565 00:31:13,739 --> 00:31:15,707 and taught us how to look out for ourselves, too. 566 00:31:16,007 --> 00:31:19,211 Never in a million years did I imagine this would happen. 567 00:31:24,850 --> 00:31:26,418 I have a daughter the same age. 568 00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:29,020 And so I really connected with her. 569 00:31:29,154 --> 00:31:32,357 And then she tells me a story that blows my mind. 570 00:31:53,178 --> 00:31:55,347 A bunch of things are going through my mind. 571 00:31:56,348 --> 00:31:58,483 I'm thinking back to what Natasha said, 572 00:31:58,683 --> 00:32:00,318 that how he's like, "Oh, calm down. 573 00:32:00,452 --> 00:32:02,387 You should go take a shower and calm down." 574 00:32:02,521 --> 00:32:05,123 Now Skylar's telling me about this weird black box 575 00:32:05,257 --> 00:32:06,291 that's in the room. 576 00:32:06,391 --> 00:32:08,960 I had a bad feeling that it might have been a camera. 577 00:32:11,296 --> 00:32:13,498 I'm like, "This guy is sick." 578 00:32:17,903 --> 00:32:20,372 Hidden cameras for his stepdaughter, 579 00:32:20,505 --> 00:32:22,474 wildly inappropriate request 580 00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:24,976 to a 13-year-old girl who's spending the night. 581 00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:26,812 He makes me sick to my stomach. 582 00:32:26,945 --> 00:32:28,113 Where is this guy? 583 00:32:28,246 --> 00:32:30,415 Because I need to get him right now. 584 00:32:31,516 --> 00:32:33,151 I'm going to put a surveillance team 585 00:32:33,251 --> 00:32:34,686 on his house to start watching him. 586 00:32:34,820 --> 00:32:37,389 But I can't afford him to start deleting evidence. 587 00:32:37,522 --> 00:32:39,858 However, I still need to interview Sarah, 588 00:32:40,025 --> 00:32:43,428 Skylar's mom, and figure out her side of things as well. 589 00:32:57,242 --> 00:32:58,910 She is really, really upset. 590 00:32:59,044 --> 00:33:01,480 Obviously about what's happened with Natasha, 591 00:33:01,580 --> 00:33:04,082 now what's going on with her own daughter. 592 00:33:07,018 --> 00:33:09,087 She lets me know that, you know, her and Christian 593 00:33:09,187 --> 00:33:10,422 lived together for several years, 594 00:33:10,555 --> 00:33:12,324 but they've only been married about a year. 595 00:33:12,457 --> 00:33:15,327 I want to try to find a way to have a conversation 596 00:33:15,460 --> 00:33:18,230 with his wife and figure out 597 00:33:18,363 --> 00:33:21,766 what it is that sexually turns him on. 598 00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:23,535 I'm building up this pattern of behavior 599 00:33:23,635 --> 00:33:25,136 because the best predictor of future behavior 600 00:33:25,270 --> 00:33:26,671 is past behavior. 601 00:33:52,998 --> 00:33:54,232 Sarah's a trooper in this. 602 00:33:54,332 --> 00:33:56,534 Like, she gets it and she understands it, 603 00:33:56,635 --> 00:33:59,804 and so she's very candid and clear with me. 604 00:34:17,322 --> 00:34:18,890 He has tons of cameras. 605 00:34:19,024 --> 00:34:21,059 Like, he's always recording. 606 00:34:21,192 --> 00:34:22,928 He's got all this different equipment. 607 00:34:23,028 --> 00:34:25,430 And in my mind, I'm like, holy smokes. 608 00:34:25,564 --> 00:34:28,266 Like, the lid has come off this can, right? 609 00:34:30,001 --> 00:34:32,003 I talked to Sarah about what Skylar said 610 00:34:32,170 --> 00:34:34,472 about this hidden device that she found in the bathroom. 611 00:34:34,606 --> 00:34:38,109 And Sarah pulls out this small, square device. 612 00:34:44,316 --> 00:34:47,419 As soon as I saw it, I knew this is not a camera. 613 00:34:47,552 --> 00:34:48,787 This is a decoy. 614 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,022 And so that tells me, "Oh, my gosh, like, 615 00:34:51,156 --> 00:34:54,526 "this guy is so paranoid that he switched out 616 00:34:54,659 --> 00:34:57,996 the camera for this fake DVD drive." 617 00:34:58,596 --> 00:35:01,433 Time is really of the essence because where's the camera? 618 00:35:11,309 --> 00:35:13,345 If what was in that bathroom 619 00:35:13,478 --> 00:35:15,347 that Skylar described is a camera, 620 00:35:15,513 --> 00:35:18,416 I know that it has to probably be viewed on a laptop, 621 00:35:18,516 --> 00:35:20,218 which means, if he's moving evidence 622 00:35:20,385 --> 00:35:22,587 or transferring evidence or disposing of evidence, 623 00:35:22,721 --> 00:35:24,322 that could be my case. 624 00:35:24,456 --> 00:35:26,157 I'm going to try to get him arrested immediately. 625 00:35:27,626 --> 00:35:30,028 Once I finished the interview with Sarah, like, I'm moving 626 00:35:30,161 --> 00:35:32,030 to secure an arrest warrant for Christian. 627 00:35:32,163 --> 00:35:34,165 While I'm waiting to get the warrant signed by the judge, 628 00:35:34,299 --> 00:35:35,967 I check in with my surveillance team 629 00:35:36,101 --> 00:35:37,469 who've been sitting on his house. 630 00:35:37,602 --> 00:35:39,371 And then at 3:53 pm, 631 00:35:39,504 --> 00:35:41,106 they tell me they spotted him. 632 00:35:46,044 --> 00:35:47,712 He's carrying a bag, which tells me 633 00:35:47,846 --> 00:35:50,015 he's maybe trying to get rid of more evidence. 634 00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:51,850 I just don't have the warrant signed yet, 635 00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:53,151 so they can't do anything 636 00:35:53,284 --> 00:35:56,354 except watch him and follow him if he leaves. 637 00:36:06,097 --> 00:36:08,166 If they see him do a traffic violation, 638 00:36:08,299 --> 00:36:10,568 what that allows them to do is get him stopped, 639 00:36:10,702 --> 00:36:12,837 get him identified, and hold him. 640 00:36:12,971 --> 00:36:14,639 That way he's not getting rid of anything. 641 00:36:21,479 --> 00:36:22,847 He's driving like a weirdo, 642 00:36:22,981 --> 00:36:25,417 like he's doing what we call a heat run. 643 00:36:25,784 --> 00:36:28,820 A heat run is what it is, when someone is suspicious, 644 00:36:28,987 --> 00:36:30,155 the police might be watching him. 645 00:36:30,321 --> 00:36:32,690 This guy's paranoia is through the roof, 646 00:36:32,924 --> 00:36:34,793 but he's following all the traffic laws. 647 00:36:42,967 --> 00:36:46,137 It looks like he's having this meltdown with himself. 648 00:36:46,237 --> 00:36:47,405 This guy, he is unhinged. 649 00:36:51,609 --> 00:36:52,811 Tony's team is tailing the vehicle 650 00:36:52,944 --> 00:36:55,480 of child predator Christian Gieseke. 651 00:36:58,716 --> 00:37:00,318 And I tell them over the radio, 652 00:37:00,485 --> 00:37:01,786 "It's a go. I've got it." 653 00:37:10,562 --> 00:37:13,331 Two of the four covert guys jump out. 654 00:37:17,602 --> 00:37:19,137 Well, they jump and grab ahold of him. 655 00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:20,939 They're getting him cuffed up. 656 00:37:26,010 --> 00:37:27,579 Uniform squad's able to get there, 657 00:37:27,712 --> 00:37:30,014 take him and put him in the car, get him into custody 658 00:37:30,148 --> 00:37:32,984 before he's able to do anything with that bag that he had. 659 00:37:40,458 --> 00:37:41,960 He's like, "Well, what's the warrant for?" 660 00:37:42,093 --> 00:37:42,994 Come on, dude. 661 00:37:43,161 --> 00:37:44,329 Like, you know what the warrant's for. 662 00:37:44,462 --> 00:37:46,764 You've been driving around doing crazy, manic, 663 00:37:46,898 --> 00:37:48,833 stupid things for the last half an hour. 664 00:37:48,967 --> 00:37:50,201 You know you're caught. 665 00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:53,471 Once they let me know that he's in custody 666 00:37:53,605 --> 00:37:54,839 and he's on his way to the jail, 667 00:37:54,939 --> 00:37:57,108 they tell me that they found a black briefcase. 668 00:37:57,242 --> 00:37:59,444 Inside that black briefcase were two laptops, 669 00:37:59,611 --> 00:38:01,212 and so that stuff was seized as evidence 670 00:38:01,346 --> 00:38:02,747 and brought back to the station. 671 00:38:07,085 --> 00:38:10,522 Gieseke refuses to speak to Tony without a lawyer. 672 00:38:10,655 --> 00:38:13,792 I'm sick because this is where I wanted this guy, 673 00:38:13,925 --> 00:38:16,327 in the room, to get him to open up, 674 00:38:16,461 --> 00:38:17,796 and now I can't. 675 00:38:18,763 --> 00:38:20,231 I'm able to get the search warrant 676 00:38:20,365 --> 00:38:21,699 for Gieseke's residence. 677 00:38:22,033 --> 00:38:24,569 I cannot even begin to tell you the staggering 678 00:38:24,702 --> 00:38:26,337 amount of stuff that we found. 679 00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:29,107 Hard drives, computers, laptops, 680 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:31,109 tablets, tons and tons of stuff. 681 00:38:31,242 --> 00:38:34,245 But the most telling thing that I found was a box. 682 00:38:34,512 --> 00:38:36,714 And that box was for a hidden camera 683 00:38:36,848 --> 00:38:39,450 that looked very much like what Skylar described 684 00:38:39,551 --> 00:38:40,585 was in the bathroom. 685 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,289 Tony reviews the video files 686 00:38:44,389 --> 00:38:47,492 recovered from Gieseke's electronic devices. 687 00:38:53,565 --> 00:38:57,936 This is a clip of Christian Gieseke's bedroom. 688 00:38:58,036 --> 00:38:59,470 And then, all of a sudden, you see 689 00:38:59,604 --> 00:39:01,973 Christian Gieseke with no clothes on, 690 00:39:02,073 --> 00:39:05,109 lean over and look directly at the camera. 691 00:39:06,010 --> 00:39:07,212 Just to check the angle, 692 00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:09,314 the view, what can the camera see? 693 00:39:09,447 --> 00:39:11,683 What can he see as the camera goes? 694 00:39:14,285 --> 00:39:16,287 We found hidden videos taken 695 00:39:16,387 --> 00:39:18,990 of various women who appear to be adults 696 00:39:19,123 --> 00:39:21,392 who, unbeknownst to them, they were being recorded. 697 00:39:21,693 --> 00:39:23,328 But the biggest, most damaging thing 698 00:39:23,461 --> 00:39:26,064 that I found were the hidden videos of Skylar. 699 00:39:27,632 --> 00:39:32,370 This is an image inside Skylar's private bathroom. 700 00:39:32,503 --> 00:39:33,471 This is a test run. 701 00:39:33,605 --> 00:39:35,273 This is Christian Gieseke walking in. 702 00:39:35,406 --> 00:39:37,008 It's motion activated. He wants to know, 703 00:39:37,141 --> 00:39:39,010 is it going to come on like it's supposed to? 704 00:39:39,143 --> 00:39:42,213 He flushes the toilet, validates that it's dawn, 705 00:39:42,347 --> 00:39:44,215 and he turns right out and walks out. 706 00:39:45,650 --> 00:39:49,153 This is the absolute slam dunk that we needed. 707 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,322 This is so depraved and so disgusting. 708 00:39:51,456 --> 00:39:53,091 The fact that he's been in this kid's life 709 00:39:53,191 --> 00:39:55,994 for eight years and he's reached this level, 710 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,662 that is disgusting. 711 00:39:58,162 --> 00:39:59,397 I'm shocked. I'm appalled. 712 00:39:59,564 --> 00:40:01,833 Why did I not have a reason to trust my stepdad? 713 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,736 You know, especially as a fatherly figure, 714 00:40:04,869 --> 00:40:06,938 that should be the number-one person 715 00:40:07,071 --> 00:40:08,573 that is supposed to protect you. 716 00:40:10,475 --> 00:40:11,576 The forensic specialists 717 00:40:11,709 --> 00:40:13,011 that I turned everything over to 718 00:40:13,144 --> 00:40:14,479 to examine have come back to me 719 00:40:14,612 --> 00:40:17,348 and told me they found over 4,000 images 720 00:40:17,482 --> 00:40:19,584 of suspected child sex abuse material. 721 00:40:19,717 --> 00:40:24,622 In addition, over 160 suspected child pornography videos 722 00:40:24,756 --> 00:40:26,324 or child sex abuse material videos. 723 00:40:26,457 --> 00:40:30,028 They got a divorce shortly after, which was relieving, 724 00:40:30,361 --> 00:40:31,329 especially for my mom. 725 00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:34,332 I mean, you want to do that as soon as possible. 726 00:40:34,732 --> 00:40:36,367 Every flag goes off with this guy. 727 00:40:36,501 --> 00:40:38,803 Like, he is the creepiest of the creepiest, 728 00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:40,071 the worst of the worst. 729 00:40:40,204 --> 00:40:42,974 This guy I despise on so many levels. 730 00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:47,111 Everything that he represents is exactly why I do this job. 731 00:40:53,384 --> 00:40:55,286 There was definitely a sense of relief 732 00:40:55,553 --> 00:40:57,121 when he was sentenced to 20 years. 733 00:40:57,922 --> 00:41:01,192 Natasha and I are still best friends. 734 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,728 I think it was satisfying for all of us 735 00:41:03,828 --> 00:41:06,164 to kind of just take a deep breath 736 00:41:06,564 --> 00:41:08,966 and just move on, too, from it. 737 00:41:09,067 --> 00:41:11,936 Kind of get the closure that we all needed. 738 00:41:14,305 --> 00:41:16,574 that over 90% of children 739 00:41:16,708 --> 00:41:19,377 who are abused, sexually or emotionally, 740 00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:22,013 are done so by someone they know and they trust. 741 00:41:22,146 --> 00:41:24,415 This is the case with Christian Gieseke. 742 00:41:24,515 --> 00:41:26,684 Child predators are everywhere. 743 00:41:26,818 --> 00:41:29,087 They come from all walks of life. 744 00:41:29,187 --> 00:41:31,956 There are professionals in this arena like me 745 00:41:32,123 --> 00:41:34,759 and teams of us all over the country. 746 00:41:34,892 --> 00:41:38,062 This is what we do. This is our playground. 747 00:41:38,196 --> 00:41:40,398 If you're a predator, if you're out there 748 00:41:40,565 --> 00:41:43,134 and you're preying on children, guess what? 749 00:41:43,234 --> 00:41:45,536 We're looking for you and we're going to find you.